Anti-democratic violence occurred in America long before insurrectionists attacked the US Capitol building in 2021. But the Trump insurgency has taken domestic extremism into new territory — and journalist Malcolm Nance has been tracking it.
Join the bestselling author and renowned terrorism expert with The Nation’s Elie Mystal for a clarifying, illuminating, and sobering conversation on domestic extremism and violence in America — and Nance’s new book, They Want to Kill Americans: The Militias, Terrorists, and Deranged Ideology of the Trump Insurgency. Drawing on evidence-based research and his work as counterterrorism intelligence expert, Nance paints a stark picture of a shift in our politics during the Trump years — revealing a new hostility toward democratic norms and an appetite for violence and even dictatorship among millions of Americans. How did we get here? And how can we stop the wave of violence gripping our country? Don’t miss Nance’s crucial, chilling assessment of national security, the Trump movement, and the fight for American democracy.