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The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg in Conversation with MSNBC’s Alex Wagner: Trump and the Military

Jeffrey Goldberg and Alex Wagner
On Heroism: McCain, Milley, Mattis, and the Cowardice of Donald Trump book cover

Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of The Atlantic, discusses his new collection of essays, On Heroism: McCain, Milley, Mattis, and the Cowardice of Donald Trump.

Expanding on his explosive reporting about Donald Trump’s trenchant disdain for military personnel, Goldberg draws upon decades of his own reporting, including key interviews with top officials such as the late Senator John McCain, former Defense Secretary James Mattis, and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley, all of whom came to oppose Trump. Hear what informed Goldberg’s portrait of a president whose impulse is to dismiss acts of heroism in pursuit of dangerously undemocratic processes and ideals, why he believes Trump is incapable of understanding sacrifice and selflessness, and, as Kirkus Reviews writes in a review of the book, “the frightening ease with which democracy can be undermined by those unwilling to make the sacrifices necessary to protect it.”

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Jeffrey Goldberg

Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic, and is the moderator of Washington Week with The Atlantic on PBS …

Jeffrey Goldberg

Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic, and is the moderator of Washington Week with The Atlantic on PBS. He joined The Atlantic in 2007 as a national correspondent and in 2016 was named the fifteenth editor in chief of The Atlantic, which was founded in 1857. In 2022 and 2023, The Atlantic won the National Magazine Award for General Excellence; this is the highest honor bestowed by the magazine industry. Under his leadership, The Atlantic has won the first Pulitzer Prizes in its history-three over the past three years-and set new audience and subscription records during his editorship. In 2020, Goldberg was named editor of the year by Adweek, which also named The Atlantic magazine of the year. Before joining The Atlantic, Goldberg served as the Middle East correspondent and then the Washington correspondent for the New Yorker. Earlier in his career, he was a writer for the New York Times Magazine and New York magazine. He began his career as a police reporter for the Washington Post. Goldberg is the author of Prisoners: A Story of Friendship and Terror. A former fellow of the American Academy in Berlin, he also served as a public-policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, and as the distinguished visiting fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Goldberg is the recipient of numerous awards, including the National Magazine Award for Reporting, the Daniel Pearl Award for Reporting, the Overseas Press Club’s award for human-rights reporting, and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists Prize for best investigative reporting.

Alex Wagner

Alex Wagner is the host of Alex Wagner Tonight, airing Tuesday through Friday at 9 pm ET on MSNBC …

Alex Wagner

Alex Wagner is the host of Alex Wagner Tonight, airing Tuesday through Friday at 9 pm ET on MSNBC. Prior to MSNBC, she was a co-host and executive producer of The Circus, Showtime’s Emmy-nominated weekly documentary series chronicling American politics. She was also a contributing writer at The Atlantic, and is the author of Futureface, a critically-acclaimed memoir about identity and immigration.

Wagner is a former special correspondent with CBS News and co-host of CBS This Morning: Saturday. Prior to this, she was the host of the Emmy-nominated NOW with Alex Wagner on MSNBC. She was a reporter with the Huffington Post, where she covered innovation and the American economy, and also served as the White House Correspondent for AOL’s Politics Daily.

Wagner has hosted several podcasts, including Crooked Media’s Six Feet Apart, a limited-run series about the pandemic, as well as Podcast for America, Slate’s weekly political podcast, which she co-hosted with journalists Mark Leibovich and Annie Lowrey.

Earlier, Wagner was the executive director of Not on Our Watch, a grant-making and advocacy non-profit created to stop mass atrocities.

Before that, she spent four years as the editor-in-chief of The Fader magazine, covering music and culture around the world.

Wagner attended Brown University and lives in New York City with her family.

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