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In the Talmud: Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai Revisited

The Closeness of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai and Rabbi Eleazar ben Shimon: A Talmudic Model for Father-Son Relationships; Going Beyond Anger by Choosing to Heal
Oct 25, 1990

Why did Rabbi Shimon merit to serve as the conduit for the Zohar, the foundation of Jewish mysticism? He was undoubtedly a formidable sage. But if this distinction provided a reason, there were others even greater—for example, Rabbi Shimon’s teacher, Rabbi Akiva. And if the criterion was suffering for the sake of Torah, the latter suffered more. And another, related question: in this series devoted to fathers and sons, what was relation between the great Rabbi Shimon and his equally great son, Rabbi Eleazar? Talmudic fathers and sons generally lived in greater harmony than did those in the Torah, as the previous week’s lecture demonstrated. Were Rabbi Shimon and Rabbi Eleazar able to conduct themselves in this spirit? More pointedly, were they able to be reconciled despite the fact that the son, for a time, apparently collaborated with the enemy? There are elements that align Rabbi Shimon with mysticism, for instance the combination of self-confidence and humility. Further, his ordeal of living in hiding in a cave for thirteen years was lonelier and thus more arduous than the ordeal of his teacher. The true test ultimately came in the final thirteenth year, when Rabbi Shimon was able to transcend anger and opt instead for healing. He was a changed man--and that is what earned him the merit of authoring the Zohar. Indeed, even his Talmudic teachings come to reflect Kabbalistic themes. Father and son were also reconciled, since the son had voluntarily joined his father in exile. Their being together under such conditions recall another father and son, who during the dark period of recent history, also existed for one another. Yet in that case only the son emerged from the cave . . .

Selected Quotations:

Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai and Rabbi Eleazar ben Shimon. A great father, and a great son. Both are celebrated as great masters in the field of both the hidden and revealed traditions. [00:01:00]

-Elie Wiesel

Rabbi Shimon ben Yochai spoke in a whisper, and his son repeated his words aloud, for that was the wish of Rabbi Shimon, who said, ‘Abba, yichtov.’ Rabbi Abba will write. ‘Eleazar yeshanen.’ My son will repeat. ‘And the rest of you, will remember.’” [00:03:00]

-Elie Wiesel

One fact is beyond dispute: the Zohar does not concern itself with concrete events or facts, but with their substance and symbols. (00:04:56)

-Elie Wiesel

The main danger, of course, lies in mixing genres, in confusing the two attitudes -- meaning, the Talmudic approach and the mystical approach. [00:6:00]

-Elie Wiesel

This study session will again be devoted to the memory of Rabbeinu Shaul Lieberman, zichrono livracha, a man who taught me so much. His words reverberate in mine. [00:09:00]

-Elie Wiesel

Isn’t respect a keyword in religious and social ethics? (00:11:32)

-Elie Wiesel

Power and pursuit of power are not viewed kindly in Talmudic circles. What matters there is piety. Moral behavior. And learning. Learning above all. For learning is the stuff true aristocracy is made of. Whereas power and wealth may be inherited, knowledge may not. [00:14:00]

-Elie Wiesel

Why was [Rabbi Shimon] chosen? Why is his name revered in Kabbalah more than any other Talmudic master? Why is his yahrzeit, which falls on Lag B’Omer, the thirty-third day of the Omer, observed in Meron even today with thousands and thousands of pilgrims who spend the night singing and dancing, his name on their lips and his prayer in their heart? [00:20:00]

-Elie Wiesel

Exile and redemption are basic components of mysticism, and never did they so dominate Jewish life as in the early years of the Common Era. (00:21:34)

-Elie Wiesel

Bar Kokhba’s rebellion seems to have been the last upsurge, the last hope. Three years of glorious fighting, of promise. Three years of pride that ended in disaster. Hope itself had to go underground. [00:28:00]

-Elie Wiesel

But already then there was also clandestine resistance, meaning there were patriotic scholars who had to go underground in order to escape the Roman police and its informers. And this is what Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai has done.[00:32:00]

-Elie Wiesel

His generosity towards his son, his love for his son, were touching. He was always ready to let him share his dreams and his powers. [00:32:00]

-Elie Wiesel

I think that, in fact, he was a man with a sense of humor, in addition to being a man with a sense of mission. [00:40:00]

-Elie Wiesel

What made Rabbi Shimon and his son go underground? Here comes the story of the cave, and it’s a great story. It has everything in it; all the elements of tragedy and drama are there. Listen. [00:55:00]

-Elie Wiesel

The last year, I believe, made Rabbi Shimon a different man. It was a year beyond: beyond suffering, beyond fear, beyond solitude. For I still believe that according to the Jewish tradition, which is mine and ours, suffering confers no privilege on anyone. Everything depends on what one does with it. [01:02:00]

-Elie Wiesel

Now, when everything seemed lost, he, Rabbi Shimon, joined the messianic movement, meaning, the movement of men and women waiting for the Mashiach, for the messiah. Waiting actively, creatively, turning waiting itself into a weapon. [01:03:00]

-Elie Wiesel

It is possible to make mistakes, because it is imperative to remain human. (01:12:31)

-Elie Wiesel
Subthemes:
        1) Father and Son: Shimon Bar Yochai & Eleazar ben Shimon 
2) The Zohar’s Extraordinary Description of the Death of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai
3) The Divergent Approaches to Jewish History of the Talmud and the Zohar
4) Remembering Rabbi Shaul Lieberman with Respect and Reverence
5) Respect for One’s Elders/Teachers in the Talmud
6) The Mysteries and Attributes of Father and Son
7) A Central Question: Why was Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai Deemed the Fountainhead of Kabbalah?
8) Who Held Sovereignty: Romans or Jews? Spiritual versus Military Sovereignty
9) Jewish Reactions to Roman Oppression
10) Rabbi Shimon’s Biography
11) Tributes to His Son Rather than His Father
12) A Sense of Humor and a Sense of Mission
13) A Passion to Risk Learning Torah
14) Competition with Rabbi Meir
15) Issues Between Shimon Bar Yochai and Eleazar ben Shimon
16) Rabbi Eleazar ben Shimon, Roman Policeman
17) Two Portraits of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai
18) The Story of the Cave; Destroying the World
19) Eleazar Burns, Shimon Heals
20) Joining the Messianic Movement: Rabbi Shimon’s Response to Suffering
21) A Partnership Between Man and God
22) Rabbi Eleazar’s Anger, Rabbi Shimon Going Beyond Anger
23) A Son’s Love: Choosing to Suffer with His Father: A Near Parallel to EW and His Father
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